story help

[cornerofmadness]

working on my Buffy love thing and stupid me, I made sure it was rooted in the bad things of S5 of Angel...only i hated S5 of Angel and didn't watch half of it. I know that Angel/Spike were made aware of the fact that Andrew said Buffy didn't trust them. I know that once again Andrew made idiots of them in Rome but as far as I can tell Buffy didn't know they were there. And that Angel did call Giles for help and was told Willow was in another plane of existence and that basically no one was coming to help.

Is there any other times they crossed paths (any Scoobie and Angel and/or SPike) via the phone, email etc? thanks guys.

Comments

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

not to my recollection. Basically everything they're told regarding Buffy's opinions of Angel is heresay.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

that's what I was hoping for or else I'm in real trouble with this story

[midnightsjane.livejournal.com]

And remember that it was Andrew, not the most reliable of sources, who told Angel that Buffy didn't trust him any more. I figure that he was pulling Angel's chain with that one.
Giles certainly doesn't trust Angel, but they do have issues..

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

yeah like I said I was hoping I was right and that all the information about Buffy came from Andrew who no one in their right mind should trust

[rahirah]

In the first or second episode of the season, Angel strongly implies that he was in some kind of contact with Buffy after the destruction of Sunnydale--he knows that she's in Italy. There's also the implication that he may not know much more than that, and is a little disgruntled about it. But nothing's said outright, and it's not even certain that it was Buffy herself who told him where she was; in light of what he says in TGIQ, it's possible that there was no contact at all and all Angel's knowledge comes from the people he has following her.

Angel definitely knows Giles's phone number, since he calls Giles to tell him about Dana, and later to ask for help with Illyria. But apparently he's not able to contact Willow or Buffy directly.

Andrew might have told Buffy everything, or nothing, or only some things. It's impossible to say for sure. It's never stated that Buffy knows that Spike is alive, and it's never stated directly that Buffy knows that Spike and Angel came to Rome. The fact that Spike is willing to go to Rome and see Buffy in TGIQ could be used as indirect evidence that he's talked to Buffy and told her he was alive, since in "Damage" he was adamant that Andrew not tell Buffy he was alive. But there's nothing in canon that definitely confirms this one way or another.

I can't think of any other mentions of Scoobie contact.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

thanks Barb, I appreciate it. It pretty much confirms what I needed. Spike's not around for Angel to confer with in this series (he's currently being held prisoner in Cleveland, poor thing. I need to go back and rescue him) but this is what I figured.