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I have too many story ideas and no time to write.

I DID finish [livejournal.com profile] ladyfest go me.

i'm still not feeling quite right. And I have that failure as a writer feeling going too. (not to mention I'm just so overwhelmed that nothing is getting done)

But I did get something done. Before I show you, one question for the anime/manga people in the audience, is there a better source of what marketing niche a manga fits into besides Wiki? (i.e. is it shonen, seinen, shojo etc...)



Introduction

In Japan, the youkai are the traditional supernatural beings. They tend not to be vampiric in nature, though some, like the Yuki-Onna, have a reputation for drinking life forces. While, there are many manga and anime that use youkai, it is rare for them to use the vampiric side of the demons’ natures.

However, there is a rich wealthy of vampire manga and anime that pull from the Western European and from Stoker’s Dracula. These books and animated series will be the ones examined for the purposes of this paper, specifically for the aspects of sex and power, two of the main themes of most vampire literature. In Japan, there still exists a strong dichotomy between the sexes and how manga and anime are marketed to them and this does effect how the vampire is portrayed. The main divisions are Shonen (teen boys), Seinen (adult males), Shojo (teen girls), Josei (women), yaoi (‘boys’ love, homosexual), and yuri (lesbian).

There is a predominance of vampire series aimed at the males. Those vampire series intended for the female market are not unexpectedly, vampire romances. Power and sex vary wildly in the series, most often based on these target audiences. This paper will examine all of the main divisions with the exception of yuri, which is a relatively small niche, and unlike many European vampire short stories that favor lesbianism, none were found in the manga that are available in English.

The Vampire Restrained


Thanks for all the help on my vampire novel. I'm still baffled how two pro editors, at least two writers groups and a handful of agents have looked at this and not tagged any of the stuff that just got tagged.

And I'm taking a page out of [livejournal.com profile] wildrider's book. It's a very simple meme, such as I understand it, you get to see my world, one picture a day for a year. Expect to see my cat a lot. I have no kids so you get cat. But first



wabi sabi tomatoes. Wabi sabi celebrates the beauty of natural imperfection and these are heirloom tomatoes. nothing perfect about them

Date: 2010-10-02 02:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Mmmmm, zomatoes....

Date: 2010-10-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I also like your article so far. It reads nicely.

Date: 2010-10-02 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
that's good. i've forgotten everything i read. this should be fun

Date: 2010-10-02 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
This is why I keep the books until after....

Date: 2010-10-03 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Okay, got it.

Date: 2010-10-02 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
i ate the little ones tonight

Date: 2010-10-02 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
My psycho sugar tomato bush is still trying to claim my Mom's deck. She beat it into submission by tying it off the other day, but I'm pretty sure it's getting back at her by creeping toward her car now.

Date: 2010-10-03 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
My tomatoes really love the lily beds. Now, if I can keep the stupid squirrels out of my tomatoes.

Date: 2010-10-03 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Bugs at least react to seven dust.

Date: 2010-10-03 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
this is true but i have none

Date: 2010-10-03 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I should get some. And clean out my flower garden and plant my new plants and those two poor roses that have been sitting in pots and....

Date: 2010-10-03 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
i need to find that better plastic and do the same but...

Date: 2010-10-03 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I just got home a few minutes ago (5:45?) so not going to do much with the yard today.

Date: 2010-10-02 03:31 am (UTC)
enemytosleep: [Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist] colored image of a teen boy adjusting his tie, looking serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] enemytosleep
Bearing in mind I:

A) Never went to college
B) Have not written an academic paper in 8 years
C) You didn't ask for this

I beat the intro of your paper to death. See the carnage below:

In Japan, supernatural beings are (generally) referred to as youkai. They are not typically vampiric in nature, though some, like the Yuki-Onna, have a reputation for drinking life forces. While, there are many manga and anime that contain youkai, the vampiric side of these demons’ natures is rarely portrayed.

However, there is a rich wealth/an abundance of vampire manga and anime that pull from the Western European folklore, particularly/especially from Stoker’s Dracula. In Japan, there still exists a strong dichotomy between the sexes, which has a distinct effect on how these manga and anime are marketed to their target audience, and also affects how the vampires are portrayed therein. The main market divisions are Shonen (teen boys), Seinen (adult males), Shojo (teen girls), Josei (women), yaoi (‘boys’ love, homosexual), and yuri (lesbian).

In this paper, the vampiric aspects of these graphic novels and animated series will be examined, specifically for the aspects of sex and power, two of the main themes of most vampire literature. This paper will examine all of the main divisions with the exception of yuri, which is a relatively small niche, and unlike many European vampire short stories that favor lesbianism, none were found in the manga that are available in English. There is a predominance of vampire series marketed for a male audience.

Date: 2010-10-02 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
ok thx


and it's ok,i put this up here for opinions
Edited Date: 2010-10-02 03:35 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-10-02 03:38 am (UTC)
enemytosleep: [Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist] colored image of a teen boy adjusting his tie, looking serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] enemytosleep
I like to procrastinate? And I apparently enjoy brutalizing words. See fics I return to Bob Fish with ma edits.

Date: 2010-10-02 03:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
hahaha i should tap you to beat up mmoon and others

Date: 2010-10-02 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bob_fish.livejournal.com
You know I love it when you take a firm hand with my fics. ♥

Date: 2010-10-02 06:40 pm (UTC)
enemytosleep: [Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist] colored image of a teen boy adjusting his tie, looking serious (Default)
From: [personal profile] enemytosleep
Don't I get money in the jar for that?

My best betas are before 9am?

Date: 2010-10-02 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvrethorn.livejournal.com
I still haven't seen your vampire novel, because I can't find it. Where is it posted? Or are you e-mailing it to people individually?

Date: 2010-10-02 03:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
it's up. you must not be on my original fiction filter. i'll go look

Date: 2010-10-02 11:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bob_fish.livejournal.com
I like the paper so far. The key bit of advice I give my students about intros to film/literature papers is: sum up the heart of your argument in one sentence and stick it into your introduction. Do this at a later stage of writing, like your first draft, as your argument will probably develop more while you're writing.

In general, points like yours about European vampire lit having lots of lesbian stuff should be backed up with examples/references either in the text or in footnotes. You could add in a footnote referencing a couple of obvious ones like Sheridan le Fanu's Carmilla, the films Dracula's Daughter and The Hunger. BUT you can get away with a lot more in terms of not referencing in introductions, as - well, it's an introduction.

BTW, it's a strong and articulate introduction, as I'd expect it to be. I cover all the essays I mark/advise on in red pen/constructive criticism, even the ones that get Firsts. Totally happy to advise you on the rest and/or on academic reading on vampires/horror studies.

Date: 2010-10-02 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
thank you. See that is already different. Science intros aren't just one or two summation sentences. We usually have abstracts too and I don't think lit papers do.

That's easy to do just from class. We had to read both carmilla and glass of blood, both lesbian. (and my prof doesn't care if I have any references which i can not do. I'm a scientist. I have to reference. and now i know why half my students don't know how to by the time i get them).

i don't think she wants a rough draft which is also making me nutty.

firsts? That's probably the equivalent of our A's (the 90-100 percentile on average)

Date: 2010-10-02 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bob_fish.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know from Helen and other science buddies' work how different the format is, which is why I explained in some detail even though you is a fellow lecturer! We sometimes have abstracts (for instance to 'sell' an academic paper to a journal) in the humanities but not always, and not really for an undergrad paper.

I'm kind of shocked that your prof doesn't need you to reference. I mark down very heavily if a student doesn't reference and prove their points properly, especially when dealing with either empirical or textual stuff. I think this may possibly be a difference between Brit/American undergraduate humanities work, although from what I've seen once you get to grad school in the humanities standards are quite rigorous. Perhaps it's because we specialise a bit earlier (at sixteen)?

A First as in the degree class. Do you have the same ones we do? As in, First, 2:1, 2:2, Third (sometimes known as the Gentleman's Third :D). We have different degree classes for graduate degrees and medicine degrees, and then no classes at all for PhD, it's pass/fail. :O

For us, 70 (%) or more is a First. Bear in mind that I have never in my career awarded above 80, and have only once or twice awarded above 75. Most of the time Firsts are between 70-75 - and that's even if you're a real high flier at a very academic uni. 60-70% is a 2:1, that's respectable. Oxford has its own system with fun sounding latinate essay grades like
beta double plus, but it still uses First, 2:1, etc. for actual degree class. I am not claiming any of this makes sense. :D

Date: 2010-10-02 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
don't worry the other profs at are school are scandalized by her not wanting references. it's lazy. I SHOULD have to have them. I don't let my students get away with that (but I don't mention it because well I'd like not to fail)

okay I thi nk the degree classes are more like our 100 (freshmen) 200 (sophomore) etc classes and I'm glad you're not claiming to make any sense since well... though I would like to have a beta double plus on my paper (i think...)

no wonder half our damn soccer team is lost

Date: 2010-10-02 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildrider.livejournal.com
Oh, I bet they TASTE perfect! How I love heirloom tomatoes!

Date: 2010-10-02 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
they do. they're so yummy and it'll be coming to an end in a week or two here

Date: 2010-10-02 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wildrider.livejournal.com
We've never managed to actually get many tomatoes from our own plants, but we've been buying them at the farmers market here, and man, they ARE good!

Date: 2010-10-02 08:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
given how much of a water pig tomatoes are I can understand why you would have troubles. you can't beat the heirlooms but they ARE a pain to grow

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