Endings

May. 21st, 2004 09:58 am
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I’ve been thinking about endings a lot this past week and a half.
Angel, of course, is passing rather bitterly to most fans. I’m not going to say much about that. I haven’t watched half the season due to sheer lack of interest. I’ve heard what happened and I’m not impressed. That’s about all I’m going to say other than it’ll be interesting to see what happens if Joss really was serious about taking it to the big screen which could either be really good or really bad (see X-File movie, which I hear tell there’ll be another). Angel, like Buffy, had joined the rank of the X-Files for me, dead and gone before it was off the air. For me Angel ended with Home, Buffy with Gift and X-Files some three years before it finally whimpered off and died.
I’m more concerned with the other people I said good bye to this week. I’ve talked a little about Frazier but I’m coming back to that. 20 years. I wasn’t even driving a car when I ‘met’ Frazier. I was in junior high. I watched him for years on Cheers even though by the end (like with so many shows) it was only sporadic. At the time I even thought I’d be a psychiatrist (not because of Frazier but because the two fields of medicine that held any interest to me were psychiatry and medical examiner, go blame Quincy). I watched through undergrad, needing those moments of laughter to break up the stress of working on three degrees at once while working three jobs. They say writing humor is the hardest thing to do, like wise with acting it. For my money having done both that’s true but Kelsey Grammar made it look easy.
When Frazier first started I didn’t want to watch it. I was never much into spin offs (law and order being a recent exception). The last few seasons of Cheers had been dull and after 11 years I thought it was time to go (even though the ending of Cheers was how I like them, well, okay 90% of the ending was dull but that last 10% where we know Cheers would always be there serving up drinks, that kind of hopeful I like). I was irritated they gave him a sudden family he never had. It took two years before I watched, stubborn woman that I am. As soon as it hit syndication I saw them all. I watched religiously until about two years ago after the marriage when it just wasn’t funny any more. But for most of those 10 years, Frazier was hysterical. The comic timing of Frazier and Niles was priceless as was Martin’s horror at the two prissy boys he had fathered. Daphne and Roz are some of my favorite female characters (Roz especially). So even though I’ve only watched it sporadically in the last few years I’ll miss something I had grown up with.

And to top it off I lost Angel and Lennie Briscoe in the same night. I was probably even more attached to Lennie. 12 years of watching him on Law and Order. Now, I’m used to losing cast members. It’s par for the course on that show, especially the assistant D.A. position but the ascerbic Detective Briscoe with his one-liners and puns never grew stale. I watched for the usually amazing story lines and fine acting (as opposed to shows I’ve watched for the beefcake of which there isn’t much on Law and Order...on any of them).
My favorite part of Law and Order is the Order part. I’ve loved cop shows from my earliest memories (one of my earliest crushes, Kent McCord on Adam-12). The law part I’m less interested in. I enjoyed the partnership Lennie’s brought to the table with all of his partners. I know I’ll still get to see him (no I’m not talking about the endless supply of L&O reruns). Lennie’s character has been transferred to the latest L&O spin off which I think is entitled "Trial and Jury" but I’m not sure it’ll be to my taste being more a lawyer show than a cop on.
I think my real disappointment is that he’s being replace by Dennis Farina. Nothing against him, I like him actually but I wanted a female detective for a change. We haven’t seen one outside of the captain on L&O (the spin offs yes). Or at least wanted to see someone a little younger than Farina. I guess Ed is still the hot headed younger cop of the partnership. I’ll still be watching. I was watching before Lennie and I’ll probably be watching until the end.



Date: 2004-05-21 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmerelda-t.livejournal.com
I haven't watched Frasier for the last couple of years, although when it was good, which was up until Niles and Daphne actually got together, it was brilliant. Law and Order while shown here, I think, has never really registered on my radar.

Im not overly upset at the passing of Angel as this IMO has been its weakest season, and while it may have been better next season, in all likly hood it wouldnt have been, I think the WB demanded changes killed it in the end, certainly not commercially as rateings wise this was one of its most successful, but artisticaly, yea, it was like watching a turgid supernatarul MacGyver.

Date: 2004-05-21 07:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Oh yeah MacGyver, I never watched that but I heard it suffered the same limping off stage as Angel and X-Files. Seriously, I'm not that upset about Angel. I agree, WB seriously misunderstood it's audience and managed to kill it (one of the things I'm thinking about as I work up that teleplay...)

Like I said I'm a cop show junkie. I'm still watching NYPD Blue and I don't even like it. But it ends next year and a friend of mine and me have fun mocking it

Date: 2004-05-21 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmyaward.livejournal.com
I love Frasier. I've only seen bits of Cheers and bits of Frasier, bright young thing that I am *g*, but Kelsey Grammer really is great, and he and David Hyde Pierce just have this brilliant comedic timing. I was watching an episode earlier tonight, and I was just thinking how much I loved it. Daphne and Roz are great characters; I love Daphne's weird Britishness and Roz's brashness, but most of all, I love Eddie. That dog is the coolest dog ever to grace a television screen.

Twenty years. Wow. That's truly the end of an era. Long live Frasier *g*

Date: 2004-05-21 08:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Oh hush. I already feel OLD :-)

My uncle owns a Jack Russell. They're evil and smart. I respect that. I never want to own an Eddie.

I wish they'd put it back in syndication here in FL

Ah well.

Date: 2004-05-21 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esmerelda-t.livejournal.com
Heh, I meant Macgyver as in it became more or less an action show with little depth to it, rather than Macgver limped onto a slow drawn out death, cause I didnt know it did, *sigh* I miss Season 4.

Date: 2004-05-21 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Ah, okay. Yes it was that. But from my friends' pov it died a slow death. I just never got into that.

I miss S4 (or S1-2). I miss Buffy 1-3...then again that's what fanfic is for...or original fic. go write something fresh and new and forget it all.

Date: 2004-05-21 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I love Eddie, too. I gave Wes and Baby!Connor an Eddie in a recent story. Hee hee hee.

Date: 2004-05-21 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I cried over the last episode of Frasier. Just cried and cried, sitting on the floor, surrounded by evil little dogs who didn't understand at all.

I needed some wine and cheese, so I could toast My Boys out properly.

I'm going to miss Niles soooo much. He reminded me too much of my first real boyfriend, not in the fastidiousness or the money but in the cluelessness of "actual life".

And Martin. What a terrific actor. He could say more with an eyeroll.

And Eddie; dear, sweet, evilevilevil Eddie.

Date: 2004-05-21 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
yes yes you did. Evil LIttle Dog

Date: 2004-05-21 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
at least you have little evil dogs. All I had was a Super 8 hotel bedspread that i almost cuddled up with then thought EWWW I know what's hiddenon this thing

Date: 2004-05-22 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
I can't help it. I *like* evil little dogs.

Date: 2004-05-22 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Yes, all flowerdy bedspreads shall be viewed with much trepidation.

Date: 2004-05-22 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
I'm thinking wonder how bright this room would be if I spritzed it with Luminal

Date: 2004-05-22 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Wanda's with me. BIg dogs. BIG DOGS

Date: 2004-05-22 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Please do NOT do that next time we travel together.

*thinking of packing own blankies as well as own pillow*

Evil's best in small packages

Date: 2004-05-22 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Think about it. Big dogs being evil would be much more...awful than little dogs being evil.

So much more chance for utter destruction.

Remember, Irish Wolfhounds jump INTO X-mas Trees.

Re: Evil's best in small packages

Date: 2004-05-22 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Yes but mass destruction can be fun and at least I can see a big dog coming at me.

Date: 2004-05-22 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
I'll be sure to point out all suspicious stains and speculate and if you're lucky Karen will be there to help

Re: Evil's best in small packages

Date: 2004-05-22 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Uh, huh. Unless they go into stealth mode.

Date: 2004-05-22 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
You two will be the death of me.

Re: Evil's best in small packages

Date: 2004-05-22 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
which they always do

Date: 2004-05-22 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Oooo there's a plan

Re: Evil's best in small packages

Date: 2004-05-23 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
See? See? Big dogs are worse.

Date: 2004-05-23 08:42 am (UTC)

Date: 2004-05-23 10:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Thank you no. Torture prehaps

Date: 2004-05-23 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
What, by not leaving FL? *evil grin*

Date: 2004-05-23 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Well that option is looking grim

Date: 2004-05-23 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
You'll take C's job and be stuck here forever.

BWAHAHAHA!

Date: 2004-05-23 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
My greatest fear...right after being sent to Kansas

Date: 2004-05-24 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] evil-little-dog.livejournal.com
Well...there is the money thing involved. :-)

Date: 2004-05-24 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
yeah can't say no to mo ney and a real job

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