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The link isn't working for some reason (extra number?), but I've read the theory and pointed enemy at it, in fact.

It's quite crazy and would be a real rug-pull, but it would be quite thoroughly awesome if it happened.

Reading it did crystallise for me that I'm totally getting vibes that there's more going on with this situation than appears, and obviously whatever happens, Pride shouldn't count Roy out of the fight yet. I can't see him being passive in the final confrontation, and whether or not the theory is true, I can see him having a card or two up his sleeve. I'm not saying that what appears to have happened definitely hasn't, just that I think there's possibly stuff going on here that we're not aware of.

Also, notice how Pride is totally falling to bits? The Gate's clearly taken a passage fee from him.

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Here's another random thought I had: Gluttony's stomach arc. Ed opens the Gate with Envy's stone and the three pass through (only using some of Envy's stone as passage). Was it because Gluttony's stomach was an artificial Gate, or does that give us more to think about re: Roy and his passage through? I agree there is going to be some big reveal/surprise coming up, and I'm hoping it will allow Roy to gain his sight (and Al his body).

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that's a very good point. There could be plenty hidden in the depths of 102. yes this gives us things to think upon.

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Dude, I just posted something pretty much the same before seeing this! Co-writing all that porn has clearly aligned our brains.

Love the new Ling icon, btw. He's so cute when he's being hardcore.

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haha you two can be the two-headed author much like me and

evil_little_dog. People can barely tell us apart any more.

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I'm working on my British English as we speak.

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She's getting very good at it too! Next lesson: "Oi, you tosspot, it's your round." Of course, CoM, as a long-term writer of Buffy fic you'll already have developed mad skills in this arena.

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hahaha well i'm pretty hacked off at that wank biscuit in my post about the book review but at least I don't have Roy getting pissed and taking a slash on someone's shoes...yet

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*applause*

Well, since it's your comm as it turns out, you could tell her "your gaff, your rules", so she can either stop being a knobend and talking bollocks or piss off out of it and leave everyone else to have a nice natter about books. XD

Enemy sometimes has to vet my fic for incomprehensible Britishisms. I know I use words like 'flat' but I think I decided bits of British in the description were OK because they added a European flavour and went with the British telephone boxes etc. (poor Hughes). I try to weed it out of the dialogue, though, because for some reason I just don't hear the characters like that. I do know people who write good FMA fic totally in British English, but I just can't get my head around Ed with a British accent saying things like "bloody hell". Especially when he's written all mockney too. Subjective, I guess.

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hahaha yes i thought it was the OTHER book comm I'm in. Only later did I realize, oh what the hell, it's MY comm. Bite my fat ass woman

Ha, yeah, in reading NSI i pretty much knew without looking you were from the UK somewhere. it didn't bother me that much since there wasn't too much of it, more in the descriptions than in dialogue.

i have more problems with Buffy using words like nappie when she's popping out 20 kids with spike/Angel. Then again I'm sure there were tons of people wincing at the non-British accents found in my Spike, Dru and Giles

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Yeah ... in the first chapter I had Rebecca refer to a free booze-up at Parliament as "Parliamentary jolly", and then enemy made me leave it in 'cause she liked it. Enemy points out stuff in the dialogue and anything too confusing or jarring, and we leave a bit in the description for flavour. And I use British spellings unless I'm co-writing.

Buffy with a British accent ... now that's wronger. You seem pretty good with the British slang already, but if you ever want me to Brit-pick any Giles or Spike dialogue, feel free to ping it over to me! Dru sounds like no British person ever born (whereas Giles and Spike are usually fairly spot-on in the show) so I wouldn't worry about her too much. XD

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yes that was definitely my big clue. definitely do not use parliamentary jolly here. Eh half the time I use British spellings and I think that must come from reading too much Agatha Christie as a child.

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. i don't write it much any more. i did, back in the day, have other friends in England help out.

And if you need someone to look at stuff if Enemy is busy, just ask. the only thing I probably wouldn't do so hot on would be full on ed/roy porn since I'd be afraid my own tastes would color the critique

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Hahaha, don't worry, I would never make you beta my Ed/Roy porn! Thanks for the offer to beta pinch-hit, I'll definitely remember that. I actually might take you up on the offer to advise about guns as there's a bit in Chapter Seven which might benefit from technical advice.

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oh no problem. I'm going home to my parents shortly (Im here putting in grades and going out of my head). I'll get to play with my guns again

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Yes, I mistook you and ELD for each other AGAIN the other day - I thought that your Garfiel fic "Of Butterflies and Moths" was hers and was telling her how much I enjoyed it (despite the fact that I read and commented at your journal). On rereading once she confirmed my error, it was very ELD what with the use of cheeky Garfiel with a side of Ed/Win. I think like enemy and I you have maybe absorbed each others' favourite characters, etc. I got enemy into Rebecca (or at least I take the credit for it) and she infected me with her obsession with Ling.

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it's a very easy thing to do. Usually however, ELD and I write different ships. We might dabble in each others ships though. She's Ed/Winry I'm Roy/Riza. SHe's Buffy/Angel, I'm Spike/Dru

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I know, but you do borrow each other's ships sometimes, that makes it confusing. And you both write Roy/Olivia smut!

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well yes but i think the few times she's written Roy/Olivia they were MY prompts.

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Haha, love that we're thinking about the same things (and also that we've all been thinking about this chapter over the course of a few days like good little otakus).

There are a whole slew of hardcore Ling icons at

fancy_tuna, which is obviously where I snagged this from. :D

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Yeah, plot developments make me nerrrrd.

Look, I finally got myself a Roy/Ed icon. I hesitated because the panel is post-Envy smackdown and therefore comes in the aftermath of one of the manga's major emotional Royai moments, and so I was a bit worried it would look like one of those annoying anti-Royai icons. It doesn't, does it? I just couldn't resist the funny.

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With the dialogue and background removed it is just shouty Roy and Ed, and I wouldn't have known which panel of manga it was snagged from..so no anti-Royai in my perspective.

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Yeah, I think I'm overanalysing - influenced by the strange memory of some crazy-ass fan rant I read about how this particular bickering scene was an amazingly sensitive expression of love from Ed which showed how much better he understood Roy than Hawkeye did. Oh fandom, don't ever change.

What is Ed fapping to at the moment?

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XD Oh fandom indeed.

He's fapping to his shouting match of understanding with Roy, I suppose. I just like using the icon, man.

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You must make sure to get it out when something's fapworthy too, though!

I love the idea of Ed fapping to bickering. Reminds me of ELD's short story where he's recovering from the impalement and Darius and Heinkel keep catching him having these dreams about Winry that go "hey now, nooo, not the wrench, no" then segue neatly into "Oooh, Winry".

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fandom has always and will always be a crazy place

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the link didn't work because i am awesome and somehow hit the space bar in the middle of it.

i thought it was a very interesting proposal. Surely Chris Mustang taught that boy some acting skills. I actually didn't notice Pride falling apart but i had to look at work in between panicking students. Heck it didn't evne want to load on high speed. I've no prayer here on my lowly dial up.

If Roy isn't b lind it would be very cool

If he is, I can totally see him using Izumi as his eyes (he'd probably work a little better with her than Ed, then again the only non-alpha in this group is Al...) Of course i still have the pet theory that Roy and Izumi are related...

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I was also thinking about Ed, Ling and Envy's journey through the Gate out of Gluttony. Ed and Ling didn't pay a passage fee because they used Envy's Philosopher's Stone for payment. Roy went through the Gate with Pride, and from Pride's crumbly state it seems his own Philosopher's Stone was also used as a passage fee. I'm not counting out the idea of the Gate having taken something from Roy too, but it's interesting, no? There's also the fact that whenever we've seen anyone else lose something to the Gate, it's carved a bloody chunk out of them - including the other alchemist we know who got blinded - whereas it's been unusually neat and surgical about it with Roy.

Alternatively, I'm in denial. I think the thing that worries me most that this is pretty permanent is the terrible Hawkeye pun, i.e. that she's going to be his eyes. However, this would clearly result in a get-together for them, so it's not all bad news.

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See i saw Gluttony as a false gate therefore requiring no payment, just something to force it open.

However you and enemy's idea is an intriguing one and one of you should do a little fanfic for it.

Yes, the fact that Roy ISN'T bleeding bothered me. Is he hemorraghing in his head where the optic nerves are? Into his eyes were there retina was? Or did it just cloud his corneas? Interesting

Hawkeye being his eyes yeah definitely a joke in there somewhere. Hayate might have a seeing eye dog living in his space soon enough. (I've already seen fanfic where Hayate has become the seeing eye dog)

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IIRC, they go via the real Gate out of Gluttony. Ed uses Envy's Philosopher's Stone to summon the Gate. This is the point where he sees Al's body by his Gate and shouts "I'll be back!" and I weep and cheer.

I'm not sure whether Roy's blindness (if real XD) is going to be entirely medically accurate ... I read loads of comments where people keep saying "his irises are gone" when they mean pupils, and other fun things.

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yes i was never quite sure why Ed managed to see both gates but it was still an excellent scene

snort. and really if anything it's that Roy's corneas are clouded obscuring everything beyond. which yes would make him blind. Sclerotic keratitis, for example

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I read a fic where someone had Roy quoting a doctor as saying his pupils had been removed, and I was a bit like, "dude, did anyone ever show you a diagram of an eye in school?" I was made to dissect a pig's eye in class when I was seven. It was very cool, especially because as I remember they looked quite human.

I think the visual representation isn't really anatomically correct so much as visual shorthand for unfocused 'blind eyes' - like the way a lot of manga artists including Arakawa do the same to indicate someone's just been knocked unconscious.

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He! I've seen the "pupils removed" comments too. XD It's like, "Dudes! She's got to show his state of blindness some how in still panels...unfocusing the eye like that sans pupil is pretty effective, though not anatomically correct."

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It's like, do they even know what the pupil actually is? My favourite comment so far is "I hope he gets his sight back because he's hotter drawn with dark eyes". Priorities are priorities!

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you just hurt my brain with this.

and if they're like my students no they have n o idea what a pupil is

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And the guys who say he has no pupils are outnumbered by the ones saying he has no irises ...

That other person made a fine point, though, he is cuter with dark eyes. At least there's no eyepatch?

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a freaking huge eyepatch that covers half his face for some reason

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He's got a scar? But how bad can it be to merit an eyepatch the size of the Phantom of the Opera's mask? That look does nothing for him.

The emo cabin of woe isn't such a great look either.

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The scar is what I went with in my CoS series (he's having plastic surgery on it and since hes back with Riza she's making him wear his glass eye)

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Quite right too! Riza should have no truck with this emo massive eyepatch snow cabin nonsense.

IIRC, weren't there some advances in plastic surgery in the RL twenties due to all the horribly scarred WWI veterans?

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no no Riza would not. The third story in this series is trying to write itself in my head but it's only giving me subplot nonsense that's 90% O.C.'s (though my original character Dev went over very well)

Not to be a cynic but MANY medical advances came as a result of war

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exactly or his corneas have clouded over either way...dear fandom pupils are mere holes. you can't 'remove' them

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Even I know that and I'm a total humanities graduate ...

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