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I managed to watch some tv this week. I'm still trying to figure out how I felt about this week's Smallville. It had some nice and creepy emotions and stuff floating through it. A moment of panic as I thought Gee Lana won't go (okay I know she won't in the end but I can keep hoping). Some nice stuff with Chloe and Pete and I liked how Lex reinterpreted the prophecy as only he could. Then there were huge plot holes like how would Chloe's unemployed dad afford to buy a place that makes no money and he doesn't really want.

Then I finally caught up to the 100th episode of Angel. Since I know there's a lot who still haven't seen it, we'll go ahead and make a cut here and if you want to read more, and I warn you I say exactly what I feel good and bad, then read on.


I am still terribly disappointed in this season of Angel. The 'are we doing the right thing is getting old?'  it's pretty obvious that they are monumentally naive if they think they are. Spike, who was always my favorite character until S6-7, has not regained much of his spark and chemistry. I could live with all these things but what I can't live with is the plot holes and total destruction of character development. Gunn's deus ex machina intelligent is as dull as watching grass grow. He's not Gunn any more and I really could care less about him now which is a shame since I always liked Gunn.
Wes has lost his fire. Fred, well I've always hated her so I just tune her and Lorne out instantly. Lorne at this point is serving almost no purpose. Eve, why is she still around? Lindsey, one of the worst abuses of a character to date. He suddenly wants to control WOlfram and Hart again and is mad because Angel got his prize? Um, what? He wanted out. He had enough. Do we not remember this? Don't get me wrong. I loved seeing him again (but could they have washed his hair?). I liked the idea of the tattoos (that will be in a story or two, that was cool) but to totally reverse his character didn't work for me.
Looking at the three episodes I watched yesterday (don't know the names), we had the one where Eve put that thing on Angel. This one I actually didn't mind much. (It reminded me of my own story Drop Dead Fred, where everyone dreams Fred dies). The dreams were interesting in a surreal way. The whole setting up of Spike was vaguely (and only just) interesting.
The Dana episode. Again, interesting premise totally ruined by the inclusion of Andrew and I'm not saying that because I find it totally loathsome of ME to set up a murdering would-be rapist as a cute little geek that we're supposed to love (but I do find it loathsome, with no apologies to Andrew fans of which I know there are some on my Flist. My journal, my feelings. I hold nothing against anyone who likes him). It was like they forgot Wes did call his father and talk some to him (maybe not much, so we're to assume the only thing anyone took for the conversation was that Angel is now working for evil. Don't you think if they felt that someone would have been dispatched to stop him?). What was the point of Andrew's history lesson that lasts 5 minutes? Waste of air time. And excuse me, the last time we had a rogue Slayer they sent Special Ops to handle it. Why in the world are we to believe they'd send a half-wit with no training. Maybe the Special Ops are gone but we see a dozen Slayers at the end. WHy weren't THEY in charge? And Sorry, don't buy for a minute that Buffy doesn't trust Angel. Not after what we saw in Chosen. It doesn't play and it's cheap of them to try it. It felt like Andrew was off on his own trying to impress the home team. Awful episode. One of the worst I've seen and that's a shame since it had such potential.
Cordy's return - Other than Lindsey's piss poor motivation, this one was good. Had to wonder why Cordy's hair was perfectly coifed the moment she woke up and why we bought her clothes that couldn't button up because seeing that much boob wasn't sexy. It was just cheap but maybe that's just me and those are piddling little things. I liked the episode. I had been spoiled for the end a little (though what I heard wasn't what happened which is just odd. How did some people so misinterpret that). Am I angry they had her pass away in her coma? Yeah, actually I am. That was the easy way out, especially if Joss gets his wish and takes this to the big screen. Then again dead isn't dead in Jossverse.



Date: 2004-05-10 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzzgoddessblue.livejournal.com
murdering would-be rapist
I must be a bit behind - I know Andrew murdering Jonathan (and how I HATED him for that) but what was the would-be rapist?

Buffy doesn't trust Angel
I didn't get that either. Since when does B not trust Angel???? If it was because of the whole Wolfram & Hart thing, since when did Buffy find out all about W&H???? And why on earth would she suddenly decide not to trust her first love without finding out the reasons??????

clothes that couldn't button up
You know, while I really enjoyed seeing Cordy again, and I thought the ep was ok, I couldn't tear my eyes away from her bloody cleavage!!! I think I missed a bit of the ep cos all I could see were her boobs! What teh heck was going on with the wardrobe dpt there? I know she's recently had a baby, and yep, that'll make your boobs grow, but helloooooooo?? Larger shirts maybe????

Am I angry they had her pass away in her coma?
Oh man. I was SO not prepared for that. I've been keeping relativley spoiler free, so I had no idea that was going to happen. And it sucked. Why on earth couldn't Cordy have decided to go to another city, like TPTB had another job for her, and Angel had to find his own way? or something like that. Why on earth bloody kill her?????? Too many main characters have been dying in Btvs and Angel. I'm not a happy little vegemite over this show.

And as big a Spike fan as I am (although I'm still trying to come to grips with his whole trying to rape Buffy thing) I'm so bored with him in Angel. You know I haven't been an Angel fan for awhile, but I'm losing it this season. I'm only watching cos it's the last season, and with Xena's last season, we never got to see any of the eps AT ALL!! So I want to make sure I see out Angel.

Date: 2004-05-10 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com
I must be a bit behind - I know Andrew murdering Jonathan (and how I HATED him for that) but what was the would-be rapist?
In Season 6, "Dead Things" - he, Warren, and Jonathan use a mind-control device on Katrina - Warren's ex-girlfriend. They plan to have their way with her sequentially. When Katrina breaks free, and declares their plan to be a rape, Warren kills her. Jonathan seems deeply ashamed. Andrew seems pretty blithe.

Since when does B not trust Angel???? If it was because of the whole Wolfram & Hart thing, since when did Buffy find out all about W&H????
It's odd because she trusted him enough in "Chosen" to take the amulet he told her came from the Evil Law Firm. Given that doing so bailed them out in the battle against the FE, it makes no sense for her to not give him at least the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps, she's run into conflict with the Rome office of W&H. Whatever the static, presuming we believe Andrew (and I don't know that I do) it all happened off screen.

Date: 2004-05-10 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzzgoddessblue.livejournal.com
Oh of course!!! I remember that. For me, that was when Warren went from being kinda funny, to an out and out evil lowlife. I hated the fact Jonathan was involved in that - he had always been one of my faves.

Date: 2004-05-10 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Agreed. As DL said, Jonathan at least looked horrified and even before Katrina started crying rape he thought it was wrong. Andrew whined about having to wait his turn. You can't tell me that he didn't know it was WRONG to have sex with a woman who can't say no.

It truly bothers me because on campuses and in bars across America, gang rapes with GHB are becoming more and more common. You often hear about groups of guys (sports teams, frats etc) doping up a girl and the courts are saying even if you didn't actually rape them you are guilty of the crime (acting in concert). I saw that episode as a direct parallel.

Date: 2004-05-10 07:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Andrew seems pretty blithe.

Yep. And having been both victim and counselor in my life, I can't forgive this.


Whatever the static, presuming we believe Andrew (and I don't know that I do) it all happened off screen.

You know that was my and SJ's reaction. It felt much more like Andrew was trying to be the 'big man' and was shooting off his mouth. It sounds more like he was listening to Xander than to Buffy (I was having a little trouble with the idea of Willow not doing her job and hanging in Rio for that matter too and I forgot to mention that did anyone else find it odd that the new, tough Wesley didn't punch Andrew in the face for all the left handed insults he was handing out)

Date: 2004-05-10 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com
I was having a little trouble with the idea of Willow not doing her job and hanging in Rio

Given the cultural (and one suspects mystical) melting pots that are Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires, it's not out of the question that she could be in South America for professional reasons as well as personal ones...

Date: 2004-05-10 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Given the cultural (and one suspects mystical) melting pots that are Rio de Janeiro and Buenos Aires, it's not out of the question that she could be in South America for professional reasons as well as personal ones...

True but Andrew made a point of saying she was SUPPOSED to be somewhere else in S.A. but kept running off to Rio, insinuating that she and Kennedy were busy hanging out and not working.

Date: 2004-05-10 07:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
murdering would-be rapist
I must be a bit behind - I know Andrew murdering Jonathan (and how I HATED him for that) but what was the would-be rapist?

In S6 Warren, JOnathan and Andrew go hunting for a woman to make a sex slave via magic (they dont' know Warren is going to get his ex Katrina) Andrew is actively hunting women to turn into a sex slave and then bitchs when he doesn't get to screw Katrina first. THAT'S why I hate him and I am furious with ME for trying to make him into a hero afterwards. It's basically GHB date rape with magic instead of the drug. It was horrible. And then they murdered her, and tried to blame Buffy.

Buffy doesn't trust Angel
I didn't get that either. Since when does B not trust Angel???? If it was because of the whole Wolfram & Hart thing,

Yeah it bothered me. It bothered me more because it was just thrown out there with no reason and it went no where. Bad writing at its worst



You know, while I really enjoyed seeing Cordy again, and I thought the ep was ok, I couldn't tear my eyes away from her bloody cleavage!!!

Tell me about it. I'm a straight woman and all I could look at was her breasts. I could just imagine the reactions of other segments of the populace more inclined to noticing those things

Am I angry they had her pass away in her coma?

Too many main characters have been dying in Btvs and Angel. I'm not a happy little vegemite over this show.

Yep that's what's bugging me about it.


And as big a Spike fan as I am (although I'm still trying to come to grips with his whole trying to rape Buffy thing) I'm so bored with him in Angel.

Yep I think a lot of people are bored with Spike. I kow the critics are.

Date: 2004-05-10 08:34 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aaronlisa.livejournal.com
I didn't get that either. Since when does B not trust Angel???? If it was because of the whole Wolfram & Hart thing, since when did Buffy find out all about W&H???? And why on earth would she suddenly decide not to trust her first love without finding out the reasons??????


-- I said the exact same thing about the whole Buffy & W&H thing too. When did Buffy find out all about them and if it wasn't for Angel joining W&H would she have been able to close the Hellmouth?

Date: 2004-05-10 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
I said the exact same thing about the whole Buffy & W&H thing too. When did Buffy find out all about them and if it wasn't for Angel joining W&H would she have been able to close the Hellmouth?

Exactly. Now Faith could have told Buffy all about it since W&H DID hire her to kill Angel. But without Angel's amulet she would have lost that final battle. I honestly think that Andrew was spouting off something XANDER said. We all know how much Xander dislikes Angel. That's the only thing that makes sense to me.

Date: 2004-05-10 10:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] aaronlisa.livejournal.com
Still Xander doesn't know about W&H and as much as he hates Angel, I think Xander isn't that stupid. I think Andrew was just trying to be something he is never going to be.

Date: 2004-05-11 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com
Good point and I agree

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