curious

[cornerofmadness]

How dependent we can get on things. Earthlink crapped out on me today and I was a puddle of babbling goo. And i really needed the break since I'm making up exams and needed to unwind. Pouts. So I called evil_little_dog and we were both laughing so hard at MXC we were less talking on the phone than pointing and giggling at the TV.

Been reading a lot of shonen-ai manga lately, (and just my luck I'm at the library surrounded by my manga picks, which for those who don't know, shonen-ai are male homosexual comic when one of teh math profs from my school pops over to my table. Head desk). Curiously I've been considering writing a slash pairing for the first time ever. And I do mean ever. Mostly I've always eschewed it, especially when I know the actors and/or creators are against the changing of sexual preferences for their creations. Even when I know the creator doesn't much care (like Joss for instance) mostly I've not seen very convincing cases being made for a lot of the pairings I've seen. So this sudden urge, for the first time in 20 + years of writing fanfic (I've written homosexual characters in my original fic since high school so that's no big for me) is surprising.

Though I was highly amused reading the conclusion of "Ghost", one of the shonen-ai which concluded with the two boys getting together and ends with them fighting who's going to be the bottom and my first thought was Angel/Spike. This is one of the ways slash often fails to grab me, is the total ignoring of personality types. Two highly dominant tops usually don't work. Ah well, the little things that amuse me.

and speaking of amusing, back to thinking of my exams. Ah, the smell of fear in the morning, nothing like it. Whee, I've found a job that plugs into that slightly sadistic part of my personality.

Comments

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

Nooo! Not you, too! It's like invasion of the body snatchers! One by one, everyone gets sucked in, until I'm the last one left, being chased around LJ by the bug-eyed slash!zombies!!

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

I know it's like WTF? Does it count that they're not real men but rather animated ones...no that jsut makes it worse doesn't it

[masqthephlsphr.livejournal.com]

I wrote m/m slash in high school with my best friend Regina. It was original, collaborative fic. Regina told her previous best friend Junko about it, and Junko was Japanese and a sketch artist, so she drew anime versions of all the characters for us. So there you go, animated gay-boys!

You know what? I kept all that fic we wrote, 'cause I keep all my writing. And I can still find the comments we wrote to each other in the margins while we were writing the story *fighting* over whether the main character was going to be gay, straight, or bisexual. Regina wanted him to get together with this cool rock star character she'd made up, and I wanted him to stay with his girlfriend who lived across the street.

And did I mention the incest fic with his brother?

Geesh. Slash is so thirty years ago for me.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

sounds almost exactly what I was writing in high school too for that matter, except make it SF and you'll be there. Never did lose my interest in writing m/m homosexuality, probably because of various gay friends who love to tell their sex lives.

i know how you feal

[ryuu-artist.livejournal.com]

i know how you feel. I'm usualy really devoted to one type of pairing.

ehhhhhhh,

[ryuu-artist.livejournal.com]

eh, i have a question for you, what is it that women find so atractive about shonen-ai (i should be able to answer this myself because i am one, but i can't)
It is against my higher morals, and better instincktes to even go near that stuff. I have nothing against gays, infact some of my friends are gay, but i don't see why people who are dead straight find this stuff so atracktive, (though i do think angel is hot).
Then again i'm not a big buffy fan either, i watched it for a little while (angel was REALLY HOT, not many people can get me to do that) It was just alittle to melodramatic for me. I feal it got abit manotonis after a while.
i would like to hear your fealings on this

Re: ehhhhhhh,

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

really i think that it has a lot to do with fantasies as opposed to realistic expectations. here's a little article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shonen-ai

Personally what I like about it, is that inspite of the usually totally unreal ways of bringing the lovers together (Fake's pretty good at it, the rest are out there), is the idea that love is love. It doesn't matter with whom you find it. It's a worthy cause and worth fighting for. often those ideas come across strongly in some of these manga especially when often there would be resistance to accepting homosexual love

Re: ehhhhhhh,

[ryuu-artist.livejournal.com]

I suppose, but love is also about reproduceing (this is just my oppinion, please don't kill me). The whole reason marrage was invented was that so to people who loved eachother very much could raise children in a supportive family enviroment.

[mzzgoddessblue.livejournal.com]

Earthlink is your internet, I take it?

I think i'd just curl up in a little ball, suck my thumb and make 'ga-ga' noises if my internet died. Heh.

and i soooooooo told you to add gay anime porn to your school site info stuff..then they wouldn't be so surprised when they stumble over you reading it on the sly. Heh.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

yep. Ask ELD. I was doing just that. Okay I was sucking tequila but still.

You were right

[sita-137.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry, you think your sadistic part is slight? [snicker]

I've never been one for gratuitous slash, and the instances I've seen haven't convinced me to change my mind yet. Maybe if you write something I'll be a convert...

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

I was going to make the exact same comment about her sadistic little self.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

do I need to kick you too

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

I'm not one for gatuitous slash either. And if I were to ever attempt it you could expect story content over sex, trust me

I'm sorry, you think your sadistic part is slight?

Do I need to kick you?

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

See, I don't think Spike is dominant at all. Not around Angel, in any event. But I think their relationship is all about power issues.

I have a new fic: Fairytale of New York (http://a2zmom.livejournal.com/90735.html)

[sita-137.livejournal.com]

Good title. Love the song, will have to read that. :)

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

Please do. It's the final part of a trilogy which is linked in this story.

And yeah, my favorite Christmas song of all time, snerk.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

I have pt 1 printed. Hope to read tonight. Will print #2 before I leave today.

See, I disagree. Spike is very much a dominant. He had to control every situation he's in. However he is NOT as dominant as Angel but dominant enough that I can't imagine them ever being a couple. Once, like SPike claimed, yes and I'm betting it wasn't a pretty sight. More than that, no, because both of them like to be in charge but I'll NOT argue that Angel is dominant to Spike, or at least Angelus was.

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

part 3 (the final part) is now posted, so have fun. I always look forward to hearing what you have to say.

[evil-little-dog.livejournal.com]

What sita and a2zmom said.

"Slight". *snickers mightily*

But yes, same boat, same dock. Uh huh.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

okay I'm kicking everyone's ass. I'll start in NJ work my way down the coast to FL then expect me in IN

yep, HOW did this happen?

[sita-137.livejournal.com]

Tee Hee.

[evil-little-dog.livejournal.com]

Wait, wait! If you're going to FL, pick me up on the way, okay?

I. Don't. Know. Sometimes, the 'ship sails for thee?

[dinpik.livejournal.com]

You...didn't happen to get sucked down the Rabbit Hole (http://crisper.livejournal.com/73274.html), did you?

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Ha. No did that last year. This is for real. Well I've always liked Shonen-ai. Slash on the other hand isn't something I've ever done before