Veronica Mars thoughts and questions

[cornerofmadness]

I'll just cut it from the get go and you can assume it's spoilery for whatever's aired in the States
Okay I never saw S1 and just dove into S2. I'm getting the hang of though the totally bland cookie cutter men (barring Wallace) isn't making it easy. To be honest Wallace and Veronica (and her dad) are the only ones I actually like. I guess I like the show but I'm not over the moon about it. Masq postulated maybe it overdosing on High School drama as of late between early Buffy, Smallville and Roswell (though I never watched that one). i think some of my disatisfaction is with the sheer soap opera ness of a lot of it. I hate soaps. I'm not much on romances so a lot of the VM back story annoys the crap out of me.

That said, I'm there for the mystery. I do like that. I want to know about the bus crash. My question is, did I miss an episode or do the writers really think Wallace's off hand remark about it being weeks since the last epi really covers it? It didn't for me. I was annoyed. Does VM do this often? two weeks ago bombshells were dropped. VM's investigations not only revealed her old boyfriend is doing Charisma but that whole rich family is into real estate fraud. And she breaks into boyfriend current's home and sobs 'the crash was meant for her' and the one last week didn't carry on ANY of these themes. It was jarring.

I didn't much buy into anyone actually believing VM was old enough to do investigations (which is illegal. Could cost her Dad a lot) nor the way Dad let go of the fact he knows she's sleeping with her boyfriend and that she's misrepresenting his PI agency.

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[fickledame.livejournal.com]

Okay, you haven't seen season one, but you say about the guys being bland? Woah. Duncan, yes. Hell yes. Logan? No way. I beg you to see series one, because that guy is anything but bland.

Although romance was happening last year, it wasn't the main point. And now I can see what you mean, but I honestly think they are using Duncan to show Veronica can't have normal, and it's all going to come crashing down. He avoids issues rather than discusses them, which isn't going to sit well with "here is what I am thinking" V.

The episodes do have big time stretches between them, because there is so much to fit in. I would have liked to have had a mention</> of the Casablanca's, I'm not sure what that was all about, other than possibly Veronica and co are so used to crap like that happening it doesn't even rate on the gossip circle. *G*

As for Veronica crying, she was emotional, but when she saw Weevil's ring, she stepped back to knowledge girl. She doesn't mope around and that I think is fully in character.

What can her Dad say about her sleeping with Duncan? Be careful? She is eighteen. In her defense, she wasn't sleeping with Duncan that night. *G*

Kristen Bell is actually twenty five. So, possibly she could pull it off. :)

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

everything you jsut said reinforces the soap opera theme. Hate that. I meant looks for the men. I can't tell them apart and I'm not the only one having that trouble judging by my flist.

It doesn't help that Echolls is so scummy I can't stand him. Maybe last year he was different. This year, I'm just hoping he's the next victim

As for Veronica crying, she was emotional, but when she saw Weevil's ring, she stepped back to knowledge girl. She doesn't mope around and that I think is fully in character.

I think you misunderstood me here. I didn't mind Veronic crying. What bothered me is that it disappeared. That's not good. You don't hand us "i'm responsible' and then NOT elaborate on it. That's not a good way to handle a mystery.

What can her dad say? keep in mind 18 is barely legal in the US and what dad WOULDN"T say anything. Hell my parents have something to say and I'm nearly 40 and single, trust me, it just doesn't ring true.

[fickledame.livejournal.com]

Yes, you do need to see the previous season to understand Logan. Yes, he can be a complete bastard, but it was all explained last year. Not that it is an excuse, but honestly, I would bar judgement on him until you have seen it.

But you understand why she thought it was her, right? Or do you not know anything about last season? I would be more than happy to explain last season to you, including the reason why Veronica thinks it was her to you. Or perhaps I am misunderstanding you again. I just mean, it wasn't really part of the mystery why she was blaming herself, she just put certain facts that she found out together, which all ties in with Lilly's death.

Well, that is entirely dependant on your relationship with your parents. It depends what you want Keith to say, stay safe? If I were in that situation at that age, my Mum wouldn't say anything bad, not if I were in a relationship like she is. I'm not really explaining myself well, but Alicia said to Keith he treats her like she was forty, and he may think she can handle it. Especially as he was lying to her to go to Alicia's.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Well I saw enough of the first season to hate Logan then too so I doubt it'll help. He's a rich spoiled brat who creates his own trouble. He deserves whatever he gets

Well I assumed it was that Meg wouldn't have been on the bus without her being in the limo but the way she rushed in and said it was her fault after finding her name on a dead man's hand lead me to believe it was more than that. Obviously she IS involved somehow, more than her own guilty feelings.

As for her father, he's running for political office in a law field. it's illegal for teenagers to rent hotel rooms (most places you need to be 21) so breaking the law with her boyfriend, breaking the law with taking his cases is a dangerous thing to allow her to do, he should say something. He does, he loses credibility with me entirely which will be bad since he's one of the few people I like on the show

[fickledame.livejournal.com]

Did you see the second half of the series? That is the important bit.

Massive spoilers here, don't read them if you don't want to know. *G*






No, see Lilly was having an affair with Logan's (her boyfriend) Dad and he killed her after she found out he had been taping them having sex and she threatened to go to the media with them. She had already hid the tapes. At the end of the last series, Veronica found the tapes, figured out it was Aaron. Aaron tried to get the tapes from Veronica by knocking her out and putting her in a fridge, and saying he wouldn't let her out until she told him. Her Dad came to find her and Aaron set fire to the fridge. Her Dad got hurt trying to get her out, so basically she was the witness at the trial for two attempted murder charges and I assume the murder of Lilly.

So, the bus she was supposed to go in ends up over the cliff. Then as you know the guy turns up with her name on his hand. She then realises he knew Aaron and worked as a stunt man on one of his films. So, she put two and two together and thought that Aaron was probably trying to kill her as a key witness and then killed the other guy to possibly keep him quiet (obviously we don't know how he died yet). So she blamed herself for everyone dying because she thought it was aimed at her. It wasn't really anything to do with Meg, her crying.

As for the hotel room, Duncan lives there as both his parents have left town, so I would assume the room is in their name and paid for by their money. As both the Kane's are in trouble with the police for covering up Lilly's murder (they thought Duncan had killed her so put an innocent, dying man in jail instead of Duncan) I really doubt they would let Duncan break the law. I'm sure they have done it some way where he isn't, anyway.

I'm not really sure what to say about the cases. The one she took last week with Julie, Keith did tell her off for. She wasn't supposed to be doing it. The other cases she does are sometimes favours for friends (even if she gets paid for it.) As far as her offical capacity is at the firm is office work, which isn't illegal. And it wouldn't be a show without her doing cases.

I hope some of that made sense. I've got home and am shattered. *G*

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

As for the hotel room, Duncan lives there as both his parents have left town, so I would assume the room is in their name and paid for by their money Ah that I didn't know but yes that's probably it. I HATED when the family owned holiday property at the beach and damn parents would rent it for their teens on spring break.

Yeah I knew that. Still doesn't make me like Logan any better. I simply find him an ugly person inside even if he has reasons, I accept I could be in the minority there.

I'm afraid the show will turn out too soapish for me to watch for the long run. I like Veronica and her dad and Wallace and...well yeah the list ends there and I like the mystery but the back story stuff leaves me very very cold

[dlgood.livejournal.com]

I'm getting the hang of though the totally bland cookie cutter men (barring Wallace) isn't making it easy.

Well, as you know, all us white boys look alike. Basically, Logan and Duncan are both many kinds of F-ed up, with Logan=too hot and Duncan=too cold. And there seems to be a mirroring thing where Duncan gets things right that Logan does wrong, and vice versa. I think there's something thematic the Production Staff is going for with that, but I don't actually care all that deeply about either character to get into it.

Mostly, I like the Dad, the Weevil character (even though he's a really un-intimidating motorcycle gang leader) and Wallace. And I just look to be entertained by snappy lines. I tend to brush off a lot of the improbably things like timelines and how Duncan can be allowed to live in the hotel...

BTW - also, I like Sheriff Lamb, inasmuch as he's a good antagonist to dislike a la Snyder...

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

yeah seem improbable tends to be a problem for me. I don't like Duncan much more than I like Logan mostly because so far this season he's background.

Weevil is interesting mostly because I don't understand him having not seen enough of last year to make sense of him. Is he in HS too because he looks 30

Sheriff Lamb is a little over done but yeah I like to hate him