Punched

[cornerofmadness]

Since the rest of my flist is doing it, why not? Five fictional characters I'd like to punch in the face...

1. Lana Lang - I have wanted to do violence to Ms Mary Sue since she made her first appearance. Seriously, if anyone wrote a character like this in fan fic, we'd be laughed off the net for making a MS. It's all poor poor pitiful me and watch me do stupid shit so I require saving every episode. Maybe it would be better if the actress learned how to do more emoting other than pissed off. I don't just want to punch her, I want to beat her into a pulp and jelly someone's toast with her.

2. Andrew Wells - I've been in a dull rage for the last few years that we were asked to accept this rapist/murderer because he's 'funny'. No, there's nothing funny about a man who plans to kidnap women, turn them into sex slaves then helps dispose of her corpse and later tries to kill Dawn and Xander as they're helping him. Can I punch him in the face with the bumper of our F-150?

3. Logan Echolls - This is a fresh new hate, the more I watch VM the more he's in Lana's class of 'why won't he die?' Here's another poor poor pitiful me. Croak already. I didn't like him in the few I saw last year and this year I despise him. The poor little rich boy stuff alone makes me want to punch him but watching him create all his own problems and dick around his friends, too bad he didn't go off the cliff in the bus.

4. Fred Burkle - You know a chatty lady scientist, I should love her. Nope, here's another one I've wanted to punch in the mouth from the moment I first saw her. Everyone loves her. Was there a man outside of Connor and Lorne she didn't try to screw? And no one knows that much science. She's like a cheese grater on skin.

5. Temperance Brennan - You killed the show for me. I wanted to like Bones, really I did. I like you in the books but damn, no one is as clueless as this chick. Who is writing the sexual tension in this thing? a 12 year old? Someone in her career field travels ALL the time since forensic anthropologists are rare so would she EVER look at her boss and ask was he sending her off with Booth so she'd sleep with him? If I were her boss, I think she'd be on a medical leave to go see the psychiatrist. Interesting mysteries totally ruined by this absolutely unbelievable 'doctor.'

6. Yvette from Most Haunted. Okay, she's NOT fictional but damn, can I fly to England to bitch slap her? If you're THIS afraid of ghosts and do nothing but scream and run and cry why are you part of a ghost investigating team?

Comments

[fickledame.livejournal.com]

Nooooooooooooooooo.

Have you seen the last half of season one yet? I swear that is when everyone began to love him. If you have, I will say no more. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. *G*

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

yes I have. That's what made me hate Logan. Iknow you love him but damn, I really despise him. Of course, I can't remember to tape VM now so it's probably a moot point.

[fickledame.livejournal.com]

Heh, okay. *backs away*

I don't particularly like Connor, so fair is fair! :P

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

There you go. Actually I'm pretty used to people not liking Connor. Way I see it, like whoever you want and I'll punch in the face whoever I want. :-) Always interested in why people like or don't like someone (you've told me why you like Logan previously for instance) it's that hand ful that won't let it go until you see things their way.

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

I agree completely about Lana Lang (and, man, she is completely different in the comics) and Andrew. Although Andrew does make me laugh in spite of myself.

As far as Logan, he is an absolute dick and I can't stand him.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah I like the comic book Lana (though I'm not a huge Supes fan)

Oh thank you. I'm so glad to know I'm not the only person who sees Logan like that. I was beginning to wonder if I was defective

[carlyinrome.livejournal.com]

Wow do I agree with you on Andrew. And Logan. Boy, howdy.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

love that icon. Who is that? And I'm always glad to find someone else who wants to kick the snot out of Andrew. Maybe as a victim I'm really sensitive to the rape thing but I just found it a real betrayal of the viewers to turn him into a 'hero.'

And wait, someone else who doesn't like Logan?

[carlyinrome.livejournal.com]

love that icon.

Why, thank you! You're welcome to use it, if you like; I always find myself in need of some good CRUSH. LIKE TO CRUSH. icons. :)

Who is that?

Why, that would be the mother of my future children, Carly Pope (http://imdb.com/name/nm0005318/). She's the subject of this icon, too . . . and my journal layout . . . and my moodtheme, too, until I changed it to Firefly for the BDM. What? I'm not obsessed!

And I'm always glad to find someone else who wants to kick the snot out of Andrew. Maybe as a victim I'm really sensitive to the rape thing but I just found it a real betrayal of the viewers to turn him into a 'hero.'

No, you're totally justified. It's ridiculous, without the victim thing . . . although I can certainly understand how that would make you more touchy. *hugs*

And wait, someone else who doesn't like Logan?

I loathe Logan.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

wow. That's an impressive filmography she has...and I've never seen a single th ing from it. Amazing.

I'm getting relieved. Many on my flist love Logan. I was beginning to wonder why I was the lonely hater

[carlyinrome.livejournal.com]

A lot of the movies she's in are indie Canadian films. That I've had to hunt down on eBay. *sigh* The things you do for love . . .

We should start a "Logan Echolls is the New Spike" not-a-fan club or something. We could have tee shirts. And a drinking game. *grin*

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Ah I know the feeling. THe shit movies I've sat through for VK.brrr.

While I did like Spike until those last two years, I think you might be on to something. I'm always up for drinking games.

[carlyinrome.livejournal.com]

Well, I loved Spike until he went all noble and neutered. And then my little heart was broken. But let's not argue this. Instead, not-a-fan-club. Swanky jackets. Drinking games: Take a shot every time Logan does something annoying. Take a shot every time Logan says something bitchy. Take a shot every time Logan sneers or rolls his eyes.

We'll be so fucking plastered by the end of the show . . . we'll have to do it Russian roullette style; half the shots will have to be something inoccuous, 7UP or something, or the whole club will die or hepatic failure in the first year.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Hmmm yes, I do like this game. And yes, we'd have to mix the alcohol up a bit or acute alcohol poisoning will result. Snort.

[mzzgoddessblue.livejournal.com]

You don't like Yvette???? I love Yvette, and my fave moments are when she screams and cries and get scared. I laugh so hard at that!!!!! In fact, I think I watch the show just to watch Yvvy (thank you Derek) get scared.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

well I suppose she is funny but since I take ghost hunting seriously she drives me insane

[ninerva.livejournal.com]

I had no idea you got Most Haunted in the US. On behalf of the British people... er, sorry. :-)

I actually think it's one of the funniest shows on. It's Derek I'd like to punch in the face though. I knew him years ago and he's no different at all.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Yep we get it on the Travel channel. I like watchingit.

You knew Derek? Him I don't mind so much mostly I think because I've functioned in similar groups in his role. However, he does stupid things. Case in point the Ancient Rams Inn where he's insulting the spirits to call them out. I'm like oh don't do that. They won't like that. Five seconds later Stuart got the shit kicked out of him and I'm like see?

Personally I'd love to see a Ghosthunter/Most Haunted cross over. The arrogant jackasses from Ghosthunter would probably kill Yvette

[ninerva.livejournal.com]

I used to live in Lancashire and Derek used to do the circuit up there, that was years ago though. He was very good as I recall, I can remember three different things he told me, two things were spot on the third I had no idea what he was talking about.

I know what you mean about winding the sprits up, I'm also saying "oh boy, THAT'S a good idea."

I have some friends who are into the ghosthunting, they are very established now and get access to some amazing locations. Weren't you saying about that town with the cemetries that form the pentagram? I remember hearing about that somewhere, is that where you live?

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

I don't even try to read people. I'm no good at it. I'm much better at doing places. And yes, winding up spirits is never a good idea.

Yes, that was me. I don't live in the town with the pentagram cemeteries but I was there this weekend trying to find them (I live about 60 miles away) I did live in a spiritualist built town in Florida though

[ninerva.livejournal.com]

I did live in a spiritualist built town in Florida though

Built by or for? I've never heard of that before, how does it work?

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Familiar with the spiritualist movement of the 1800's? Both of these towns were havens for that religious movement and the towns were built by them (though Athens predates the movement but they had a huge influence hence the pentagram cemeteries)

[keith5by5.livejournal.com]

Andrew.

Oh god, oh yes. What an annoying little Spike-lite he is.

Fred?

Don't understand that myself, always liked her.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

hated Fred passionately from the moment she joined. One of the most unbelievable characters they ever came up with and easily one of the most annoying. She was the #2 reason I quit watching in S3

[rahirah]

Fred's not my facorite character evah, and the "I've got a degree in SCIENCE!" thing is always a bit annoying, but I'm never sure where the "Fred's such a h0r!" thing comes from. Certainly not from canon, where she's only had one documented sexual partner. I can't help thinking that her main sin is the sin of not being Buffy and having both Spike and Angel like her.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

Fred made a play for Angel when she first came back and was shot down. She did sleep with Gunn. She had Wes. She flirted with Willow to the point Willow had to shoot her down and the whole beginning of S5 looked liked Spred at least to me.

[rahirah]

Wow, are we watching different shows. :P Fred had an unrequited schoolgirl crush on Angel because he saved her. It was never serious, and she got over it. She had a long-term relationship with Gunn. Willow flirted with HER and then guiltily remembered she had a girlfriend and scarpered, leaving Fred going "What happened?" There was the strong implication that she and Wes hadn't had sex before Fred died, but hey, say they did the deed. Wesley deserved to get laid. Why that all adds up to Fred being a horrible person in the minds of so many fans, I have no idea.

I know a lot of people who'd gone off Spuffy were hoping for Spred and desperate to see any hint of sexual chemistry between the characters. And a lot of bitter Spuffy shippers who were terrified of Spike moving on absolutely savaged the Spred shippers on several boards for being 'traitors' and Fred for being a slut and a ho every time there was a scene where she and Spike happened to be in the same room. Which, for a group who'd complained bitterly in its day about how cruel the B/A shippers were to them, was an extraordinary display of mean-spirited hypocrisy. Personally, I wouldn't have minded Spread if it were written well, but I never saw any indication that the characters were interested in each other as anything other than friends--and frankly, at that point having a friend was far better for Spike than having another lover.

I think Fred did suffer as a character because the writers don't seem to know what to do with female characters who aren't in a relationship, but I also think that the fannish loathing of female characters who threaten their pet ships is rather scary. I'm not saying that's your thing, since obviously you're not a bitter Spuffy shipper, but I've seen enough of it that it's left a very bad taste in my mouth.

[cornerofmadness.livejournal.com]

It's always interesting to see how people view characters so differently. The sex aspect of Fred was the least of my dislike of her to be honesty. It was just a whole compliation of things that made me absolutely loathe her. Even without her the whole pylea arc just dragged down what is otherwise my favorite season of Angel. And Fred...I've always wanted her gone. In fact the only bash fic I ever wrote was Drop Dead Fred. I don't approve of bash fic, sort of ashamed to have written it but even at that it's more how to kill Fred rather than outright bashing.

But seriously, I hate her. On the other hand, I love Illyria. It was the first indication that Amy Acker could actually act (and I'm including other movies of hers in this)