Writerly Ways
Dec. 1st, 2024 10:11 pmSo I was proud of myself thinking look at me finishing my 20th nano (even if we were doing it adjacent to them this year) Nano kept saying I started in 2004 But I always thought I had done my first you while living in FL. Then I remembered that nano had lost data years ago. Well they must have recovered it. It was year 21 this year....I DID start in FL in 2003 (I remember it doing a story Evil Little Dog still likes and asks about) Either way, I've done good. We're not talking about finishing today though. Nope not ready.
I was thinking more about talking about dating your story. Okay every story will have some datedness as time goes on but there are ways of making that worse. But let's get to that in minute.
Sometimes we want to date a story to set it in its time frame. Like my abovementioned monster hunter story which I started for nano 19 and finished two days ago or so. It's set in the 1980s and you need more than no cell phones/lap tops to set that time period. I use popular clothing choices (gloria vanderbuilt jeans, swatch watches), music and even movies to set it perfectly in 1986 (Aliens, though I need to check, I might have messed up and had them going to Princess Bride which is 87). This is a good form of dating. I want you to feel the 80s. (Nothing I hate more is someone making a big deal of their time period or their setting, let's say Paris, and it could be any time and any city because there's nothing to set it there)
On the other hand, putting in too many trendy references in a story you don't necessarily want dated. I just finished skimming (because it wasn't great) a book pubbed in 2006 and maybe it was written 10 years before because so many of the references were from the late 80s early 90s. And the author used them so damn often. it was like...fill in dated reference. Some things are timeless (Wizard of Oz, The three stooges) and even if we think they are, they probably aren't. My students, for example, may not know who the stooges are.
So maybe use those references sparringly. If you comparing your character to someone you run that risk of someone reading a book 10-20 years down the road (like me and the aforementioned boredom) we have no idea who you're talking about (this is the one thing that's great about fantasy, no worries on datedness)
OPEN CALL
Little Ghosts Is Open To Novellas Submissions Horror fiction between 17-40k words. I need to do a pitch... but I think I parred the novella down to 10K....dammit
Silk and Foxglove Eco-horror with a sexy or erotic spin
Note: Only open to BIPOC authors
Noncorporeal III: Nightfall Spooky stories that aren’t horror which contain at least one paranormal entity and ideally will include a scene at night or take place at night
Lured Into The Deep All mermaids (and their kin), kraken (sea monsters), underwater civilizations, etc. stories are welcome. All genres are accepted.
Vassar Review: Now Seeking Submissions
Eight Exciting New Literary Journals (November 2024)
From Around the Web
Horror Tree’s 2024 Gift Guide: Gifts For Writers
What Are Your Characters Thankful For?
Black Friday Deals for Writers 2024
How To Stay Sane While On Submission
HarperCollins Sells Rights to Books for AI Training; Amazon KDP to Stop Serial Releases; 4 Submissions Opportunities That's right screw up Harper Collins. Penguin books on the other hand said NO to selling to AI (right now)
10 Magazines Accepting Books for Review
Overcoming the Loneliness of Being a Writer
Custom Book Cover Printing Options for Self-Published Authors
How to Promote A Book on Goodreads
When Should I Use a Colon, Semicolon, and Dash?
Con-Tinual: The Con That Never Ends also here on Youtube.
From Betty
Why Storytellers Fail at Grimdark and How to Fix It
Six Character Archetypes for Love Interests
Five Obstacles to a Realistic Interstellar Empire
Using Limiting Beliefs To Go Deeper With Characterization
Structural Words of Wisdom
What is Your Character’s Wounding Event?
Character Secret Thesaurus Entry: Is Safeguarding Someone’s Secret
Newsletters: A Writer's Best Marketing Tool I keep hearing this? Have you found it so? All I know is I delete 99% of author newsletters unread as soon as they hit my inbox.
I was thinking more about talking about dating your story. Okay every story will have some datedness as time goes on but there are ways of making that worse. But let's get to that in minute.
Sometimes we want to date a story to set it in its time frame. Like my abovementioned monster hunter story which I started for nano 19 and finished two days ago or so. It's set in the 1980s and you need more than no cell phones/lap tops to set that time period. I use popular clothing choices (gloria vanderbuilt jeans, swatch watches), music and even movies to set it perfectly in 1986 (Aliens, though I need to check, I might have messed up and had them going to Princess Bride which is 87). This is a good form of dating. I want you to feel the 80s. (Nothing I hate more is someone making a big deal of their time period or their setting, let's say Paris, and it could be any time and any city because there's nothing to set it there)
On the other hand, putting in too many trendy references in a story you don't necessarily want dated. I just finished skimming (because it wasn't great) a book pubbed in 2006 and maybe it was written 10 years before because so many of the references were from the late 80s early 90s. And the author used them so damn often. it was like...fill in dated reference. Some things are timeless (Wizard of Oz, The three stooges) and even if we think they are, they probably aren't. My students, for example, may not know who the stooges are.
So maybe use those references sparringly. If you comparing your character to someone you run that risk of someone reading a book 10-20 years down the road (like me and the aforementioned boredom) we have no idea who you're talking about (this is the one thing that's great about fantasy, no worries on datedness)
OPEN CALL
Little Ghosts Is Open To Novellas Submissions Horror fiction between 17-40k words. I need to do a pitch... but I think I parred the novella down to 10K....dammit
Silk and Foxglove Eco-horror with a sexy or erotic spin
Note: Only open to BIPOC authors
Noncorporeal III: Nightfall Spooky stories that aren’t horror which contain at least one paranormal entity and ideally will include a scene at night or take place at night
Lured Into The Deep All mermaids (and their kin), kraken (sea monsters), underwater civilizations, etc. stories are welcome. All genres are accepted.
Vassar Review: Now Seeking Submissions
Eight Exciting New Literary Journals (November 2024)
From Around the Web
Horror Tree’s 2024 Gift Guide: Gifts For Writers
What Are Your Characters Thankful For?
Black Friday Deals for Writers 2024
How To Stay Sane While On Submission
HarperCollins Sells Rights to Books for AI Training; Amazon KDP to Stop Serial Releases; 4 Submissions Opportunities That's right screw up Harper Collins. Penguin books on the other hand said NO to selling to AI (right now)
10 Magazines Accepting Books for Review
Overcoming the Loneliness of Being a Writer
Custom Book Cover Printing Options for Self-Published Authors
How to Promote A Book on Goodreads
When Should I Use a Colon, Semicolon, and Dash?
Con-Tinual: The Con That Never Ends also here on Youtube.
From Betty
Why Storytellers Fail at Grimdark and How to Fix It
Six Character Archetypes for Love Interests
Five Obstacles to a Realistic Interstellar Empire
Using Limiting Beliefs To Go Deeper With Characterization
Structural Words of Wisdom
What is Your Character’s Wounding Event?
Character Secret Thesaurus Entry: Is Safeguarding Someone’s Secret
Newsletters: A Writer's Best Marketing Tool I keep hearing this? Have you found it so? All I know is I delete 99% of author newsletters unread as soon as they hit my inbox.

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Date: 2024-12-02 01:39 pm (UTC)I like my period details to fade into the background. In my now-on-hiatus WIP, I have a few flashback scenes set in 2000/2001. I have the characters get a new DVD player and one guy playing Quake in his school computer lab. Since it's set in Boston, I also have a throwaway line about college kids daring each other to jump into the Charles River, which was full of sewage at the time (it's much cleaner now).
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Date: 2024-12-04 05:19 am (UTC)You can certainly over do it. I think little details like you're describing would certainly help.